The Whole Devotional Process is Purificatory Process.

Jñānagamya: It is the highest blasphemy.

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Jñānagamya: It is the highest blasphemy, isn’t it? If one says, “I am God.”

Prabhupāda: No, highest ignorance, highest rascaldom. (laughter) Yes. How one can become God? If one can become God, that means the such-and-such, he was God. Then how he has become dog? That is another rascaldom, ambition.

Jñānagamya: A devotee is only supposed to want service, and sometimes he very much wants to be liberated to be finished with all this difficulty, isn’t it?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Jñānagamya: Is it very contaminating?

Prabhupāda: Not contaminating, not in the highest stage. That is not contaminating. If the devotee wants liberation, then they’re in the lower stage. Actually, a devotee, he is already liberated. Why he shall aspire after liberation?

Jñānagamya: Pure devotee’s liberated.

Prabhupāda: Therefore when he’s purified, he’s already liberated. There is no question of his aspiring after liberation. He’s already liberated. Sa guṇān samatītyaitān brahma-bhūyāya kalpate (BG 14.26).

Ātreya Ṛṣi: If the devotee’s purified, he’s convinced that if he becomes purified he will be free.

Prabhupāda: Yes. The whole devotional process is purificatory process. The more he is purified, he becomes high-class devotee. But the process is the path of liberation. Just like mango. The green mango, this green mango will be ripe mango. The same mango. You cannot say that the ripe mango is different from the green mango. It is a process. By the process the same green mango becomes yellow; then it is perfect.

Room Conversation — August 11, 1976, Tehran

Srila Prabhupada or by a full title His Divine Grace A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada is the founder-acharya of the International Society for Krsna consciousness and the pioneer in introducing devotional service in the Western countries. He is a pure devotee of Lord Krsna coming in the Gaudiya Vaisnava disciplic succession of realized spiritual masters. His numerous translations of ancient Vedic texts are recognized by scholars from Harvard, Cambridge, Princeton, Oxford, La Sorbonne and other major universities. He initiates all sincere souls into the knowledge of bhakti-yoga through his teachings.

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